The four remaining GOP candidates battled for the last time before the Florida primary in a debate sponsored by CNN, the Republican Party of Florida and the Hispanic Leadership Network. This debate took place at the University of North Florida located in Jacksonville.
Here is the entire debate video via YouTube:
Alternate full debate video link: ElectAd.com
Original Air Time: Thursday, January 26 at 8pm ET on CNN
Participants: Gingrich, Romney, Santorum, Paul
Report from CNN:
Front-runners Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich got the most attention and Romney appeared to get the better of his opponent on a couple of occasions during the final debate before Tuesday's critical Florida primary.
While his attacks Thursday night on his rival weren't sharp, Romney was forceful and had Gingrich on his heels when he brushed accusations aside and turned them back on Gingrich at the CNN/Republican Party of Florida debate in Jacksonville.
"Romney won two ways tonight," said CNN contributor and Republican strategist Alex Castellanos. "One, by having a good debate and two by having [Rick] Santorum have his best debate yet."
Romney appeals to the more moderate wing of the Republican Party while Santorum and Gingrich are competing for the conservative vote.
Romney seemed to be more prepared this time around for Gingrich's attacks. Rick Santorum came out of his shell and gave a fairly strong performance as did Ron Paul. Newt Gingrich played defense most of the night and did not rise to the bar he set in previous debates.
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I watched every GOP debate to date. I watched the Jacksonville debate live and have re-watched it twice more prior to posting my thoughts here. Fundamentally, I see the top two contenders as Romney and Gingrich ; with only Mitt Romney as the right choice; and here is why.
I have complete respect for Ron Paul. However, he comes across as a "Rambler"; he doesn't stay on point. The Obama Campaign would decimate Ron Paul as old, senile and "over the hill". I would hate to see that happen to Ron Paul. He is a fine Congressman, and has given much over the decades to this country. Additionally, the real issue with Ron Paul is he is two "Black and White"; this is not a racial issue. It is a monetary issue. Yes, America has huge problems that need to be addressed beginning with a 16+ Trillion Dollar National Debt. Ron Paul hasn't learned to pick his battles. He would cut everything at once nationally and internationally to correct the issues. This would send shockwaves through the nation and our international allies depending on America's strength. Ron Paul's thoughts on changing Washington and protecting the Constitution are wonderful. My worry is he would try to change too much too fast; and do more harm than good. No… Realistically, Ron Paul would make a wonderful Presidential Advisor; or even a strong Vice President to be used as an alternative/economic decision making force. But, Ron Paul is not the person to have the final Presidential decision making power.
Rick Santorum, where to begin… Rick Santorum is a candidate of integrity… I get that. Rick Santorum believes passionately in his platform. I get that. However, Rick Santorum is too "green" in the Political Arena still. Why? He can't control his emotions. Obama would eat him for lunch in a debate, when Rick Santorum allowed his anger and frustration to get the best of him. He showed that in South Carolina, he showed that in Iowa, he showed that in New Hampshire and now, in Jacksonville, Florida. Rick Santorum came across angry and frustrated in the Jacksonville debate. This fact underscored his message. Rick Santorum doesn't have the political and financial campaign to take Barack Obama on and that would lead to an easy win by Barack Obama. I believe Rick Santorum needs a little more mentoring in the political arena and he will be a GOP force to be reckoned with in the future. But, this is not his time or his election. I believe prior primaries and the polls are showing that; he needs to stand back and bow out. This is not his fight anymore.
Newt Gingrich… I find him an oxymoron. I don't know which Newt to believe today. The other candidates were correct regarding Newt's platform. He does go to each state and tell the constituents there exactly what they want to hear to win votes. I've seen it in the media, in newspapers, in interviews, etc. This begs the question: What length and what promises would Newt Gingrich go to for the GOP Nomination and Presidency, and once secured would he make good on promises, of would be have another "empty promise Obama" on our hands? What I find most disturbing about Newt Gringrich is two things:
a) He made such a fuss regarding Romney releasing his tax returns, which effectively showed about 40% in taxes and charity donations. I can live with that. However, Newt Gringrich only released one year of his personal income tax return. He didn't release the two returns for his holdings companies, in which he is the main stockholder, owner. CNN has reported Newt Gingrich's combined wealth makes him much wealthier than Romney. Plus, Gingrich's campaign is bankrolled by Sheldon Adelson, the 8th Richest Man in the US, a Las Vegas Casino Magnate. How can Gingrich say is for the GOP working poor when his actions show he is the Gaming Industry's puppet?
b) Newt Gingrich talked about faith in God during the Jacksonville, Florida Debate. Doesn't faith in God also go to a man's integrity? Newt Gingrich has run a hideous under the table smear campaign on Mitt Romney's faith. Yes, I have family who live in South Carolina, Newt Gingrich talked Highway repair to the media and spread "faith poison" at his outdoor events. I find this double standard disquieting. Newt Gingrich was hitting South Carolina "bible Thumper" fears to secure the win. This brings us back to Newt Gringrich's integrity… This man has been married, what 3 times? Okay, a man makes mistakes; I don't hold that against him. What I find disconcerting is the fact, he had an affair for years with his then mistress Calista, told his ex-wife to deal with it or he would divorce her. No, Newt Gingrich didn't have an open marriage with his former wife, to have an open marriage both need to be having an affair. That is something only Newt Gingrich was doing with Calista. Newt Gingrich divorced his former wife, and married Calista. I am happy he has found a companion he can finally be content with. However, this whole scenario raises an integrity issue in my mind. If a man can't be trusted to respect the vows of marriage he took; how can Newt Gingrich be expected to hold the Oath of the Presidency with any degree of trust?
Overall, there is more to Newt Gingrich than meets the eye and it doesn't all appear to be good news. One must remember Newt was a politician, Washington Advisor/Lobbyist/what ever and Speaker of the House for what 30 years. Newt Gingrich is part of the Washington problem that the country faces today. He didn't always remain loyal to the GOP party and he was censored as Speaker of the House. It doesn't matter if he challenged that and overcame it; the fact his party had to do that in the first place speaks volumes… In recent years, Newt Gingrich has sided with Nancy Pelosi on Obama policies. It has been reported since the Iowa debates, that Nancy Pelosi has information on Newt Gingrich's years as speaker, which will be used as an "October Surprise" in the Obama Campaign if Newt wins the GOP nomination. However, what is most troubling is the Obama Campaign and Obama Supported PAC Campaign has been running Pro-Gingrich/Anti-Romney ads in Florida to assist Gingrich's campaign. I find these troubling two ways: the Democrats are attempting to manipulate the outcome of the GOP nomination in their favor; and, the Obama Campaign sees Romney as the larger threat to re-election plans… No, when everything is weighed and balanced. I couldn't sleep well at night with Newt Gingrich as the GOP Nominated Candidate or potential President.
This brings me to the final GOP Candidate… Mitt Romney… I've gone back and forth several times over this. However, I come back to one undeniable fact… Romney has integrity… Something we are seriously lacking in Barack Obama. I have sat back and watched this man endure double standards that the other candidates haven't endured. I have watched this man attacked because of his faith, his hard work and earning a living, his integrity, etc. the list goes on. Mitt Romney has stood tall, with resolve and refused to "cow to pressure". I find that remarkable. On the issue of faith, Mitt Romney has shown more integrity than Barack Obama. Why? You want to know the difference between Obama and Romney. Romney has never hid from his beliefs, nor changed his beliefs to win elections. Romney has openly stated to the world "This is who I am, and what I believe"; now let's get back to work."
Obama on the other hand claims to be a "Christian"; however, his actions and foreign loans to Muslim nations speak quite differently. Obama openly announced to Egyptian Foreign Minister Gheiet in June 2010, that he was a practicing Muslim. This interview announcement was carried by many Middle East and European news media; it was just American News Media that downplayed and didn’t report these statements by Obama. Personally, a Muslim President holds no terror for me. What I find reprehensible, is the lying to the nation and Obama's own Democratic Party members. Why? Being a Muslim wouldn't have won Obama the White House. Not after 9/11 and not after Saddam Hussein and Bin Laden. Anyone who thinks differently is kidding themselves or living in denial. What does this say about Obama's character?
Romney has been married to the same woman for what, 30-40 years. This proves Romney can finish what he starts. Washington is a mess and throwing a lifetime politician as Gingrich, back into the mix, won't change a thing. Sure, Mitt Romney made a few political mistakes along the way, which is the learning process. The difference between Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich… Mitt admits his mistakes, learned from them and moved on positively. We need a Leader that is strong; firm; ethical; faith based; understands how the economy works to get America back on the right track; fair minded and will honor our Constitution, the way the Constitution deserves to be honored; and isn't a lifelong Washington Bureaucracy Politician. Surprisingly, at the beginning of these debates, I thought Gingrich or Perry would be my choice. However, I now understand why the Obama Campaign and Democratic Party don't want a Presidential Debate "Showdown" with Mitt Romney. Mitt Romney is the one candidate that can call Obama out; and show Obama to be the "Smoke and Mirror" President that he is. Gringrich has too much baggage, Santorum is still too green, and Paul is just too all over the place. No, for Real Change in the GOP Party and the Presidency… It's time to get behind Mitt Romney, folks!
Well I will give you a thought out response. I will say you are unfair to Ron Paul. Ok you list Romney's good points, but it is strange that his good points are also what Ron Paul excels at more then any other GOP runner. First Mitt was married to his wife about 32 years, that is good, good for him, Ron Paul… well that would be about 54 years I think. Ok so Ron wins that one. So you go on and on and on about the Constitution at the end, Ron Paul is the only one who knows it line for line, who talks about it all the time, I think in a resent debate Romney was answering a question and he said that if the moderator wanted to know about how the question lived up to the Constitution ask Ron Paul lol, Romney even knows Ron Paul will school him on the Constitution and knows so much more about it then him. So, I mean I think you say a few interesting things, but you should really give Ron Paul more credit and it seems by the things you said Ron Paul would be more of a fit to your interests. Also, you saying Ron Paul is old, is age discrimination and you should know better, if Obama attacked Ron based on his age he would be slammed fast. Ya America has huge problems, so what is wrong with fixing huge problems with huge solutions, you can not tipsy-toe around it. Ron Paul does not ramble, he might talk fast, he has a lot to say, and he says things that need to be saying, I wish you would really be more thoughtful about who you chose and really research what is best for America.
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There isn't anyone of the stage that I completely agree with on every issue. Even Ron Paul has some ideas that I do not agree with. First, I think it is not a good idea to go back onto the gold standard right now. There are other more pressing matters, and even though it is in the constitution to have a gold standard, I think the constitution has been trampled on for so long that we cannot go back the gold standard. I also don't like everything about his tax policy. 0% taxes and making money from a highway tolls or from a tax on using beaches is not the right answer. The government needs a little bit of income tax. But, when I look at all the other candidates and I look at Obama, I just can't trust any of them. Everyone of them will say whatever they have to to get elected, and when they are elected, they will continue with the status quo. The status quo is not what this country needs right now. In fact, if we continue with the status quo this country will collapse from the inside as all countries eventually do when they spend outside their means. I wouldn't worry too much about Ron Paul cutting to much to fast. Although I would like him to be able to cut as much as he wants, there is a Congress that won't let him. Fortunately the Executive branch has become so large by using loop holes in the constitution, that the President has far to much power right now, so Ron Paul will be able to phase out many of the unconstitutional parts of the government that are under his direct control. I wouldn't worry so much about Ron Paul phasing things out to quickly. He has a better understanding of economics than me, you, or anyone else on that stage, and probably in that whole building, and he has stated repeatedly that he will not cut everything instantly as he knows that would be to much of a shock to the country. It's time we got an intellectual in power who is willing to voluntarily give up that power and give it back to the American people. He is a better man than I could ever be.
"I have complete respect for Ron Paul. However, he comes across as a "Rambler"; he doesn't stay on point."
I see it funny that you say this, and yet you don't notice that Romney is the KING of rambling.
"Romney and you'r question is 'blahh blahh blahh, what is your answer?"
Then he goes off and talks about something else that is not related to what is being talked about. Or if he gets put on the spot, which I've seen Santorum put him on the spot a couple times, he dances around the questions more than any other candidate up there.
You say Ron Paul rambles, but what he is saying is true.. We don't need to make it as complex as we are.. A LOT! of problems can be solved if we simplify what we have instead of making it more complex. So that is why he keeps referring back to what you call rambling.
And don't be foolish thinking that "OH NO! RON PAUL wants to cut things instead of adding things to fix what we have now. This could only lead to chaos if he was president, because how on the world can theses problems we have be fixed by cutting out all the crap that got us here in the first place." Ron Paul has been doing this way longer than me or you have ever, so I believe he knows whats realistic and whats not. Us as human beings are dumb, and just have to over complicate things when they don't need to be. If Ron Paul became president he isn't going to guide us into an iceberg.
Also you said that Rick Santorum is the most green…. I believe Romney is the most green up there. Yes santorum is passionate, about what he believes in. You can't blame him for that, but I agree out president will have to be able to keep it together when things don't go his way. But all Romney has is "I have own and grown a business, I started from the ground up and work hard to get where I am at." Just because you had a successful business career doesn't make you suitable to be given the keys to the ENTIRE country. The only thing with Romney that I don't like is that I can see through his smoke and mirrors and he just like everyone else that we already have in the white house. We need something new and fresh, that is willing to take us out of our comfort zone to fix what we have now.
spot on, DD
"a military so strong, no one dares attack us" more or less Mitt Romney
I cant vote for mitt romney. Although i disagree that they would be more of the same. He will not raise taxes or cut spending. (and no… cutting Obamacare DOES NOT count as cutting spending at the moment) On top of that, its more than likely he will pull us into another war. We're past the point where China was supposed to bust our kneecaps for how much we owe.
All romney will do is undo all the good/bad things Obama did without solving our problems. He and Gingrich tells the audience what they want. For his record of flip flopping, i just can't trust him to keep his promises to the country.
As for the debate: 1)Israel can take care of its own problems, don't give unwanted help 2)Half of the debate was Gingrich and Romney barking over pointless trash 3) We should get NASA their proper equipment ONLY after we get the cash to do so
Gingrich does not have too much baggage. He could have relations with half the east coast for all i care, if he balances the budget. Like romney he did things that make it look like they don't care about the little guys, who cares….
Santorum isn't too green. He and Paul believe in their convictions and act on them without hypocrisy. He also gives back to his constituents in the form of legal service not pork (spouse wanted to end her comatose wife's suffering etc.)
Paul really isn't rambling. Saying the same thing over and over is called consistency. His answer to the debt, budget, wars, and israel; GTFO out of those countries and declare war before going to war ffs. His answer to everything else; if its not in the constitution leave it to the states.
I would be leaning towards Santorum or Gingrich if they would just have a proper debate… They haven't talked seriously about Santorum's economic plans or Gingrich's "Patient Power" healthcare. Heck if they don't talk about their policies and Obama ends up not keeping his promises; I'll vote for Ron Paul on the sole fact that i know what he will do.
Few notes:
Newt needs to lose FL (so he can soon be coaxed to withdraw — this egotist won't drop out until he is facing a dead end), and Santorum should drop out once out of funds.
Then the inevitable one-on-one of Ron Paul vs Mitt will finally allow Ron Paul to have equal time.
Americans need to hear his message of truth — and only then will there be an impact of what Ron Paul states.
So far the media is gorging themselves in glee with the Newt-Mitt Circus and Side-Show Rick — while doing their best to ignore Ron Paul.
As the great American Paul R. galloped to warn us — hear another patriot R. Paul decrying: " The Feds are coming, the Feds are coming…."
Yes Ron Paul is a great candidate. He is more or less fiscally sound. People don't seem to realize that you need to cut programs or raise taxes to fix the rut we're in. Although i cant find anything debate or otherwise that Paul is gonna raise taxes, hes the only one that will cut enough programs to balance the budget. (Again…. cutting Obamacare doesn't count.)
Trouble is people can't seem to get over his stance on Iran. Its just a POSSIBLE nuke people. Last time i checked if one nuke flies, the rest will get launched as well. Its basic Nuclear Apocalypse. Free Trade + Embargos =/= Free Trade. No one seems to remember that we tried to set up a Shah and the people are still a tad bit angry about that.
Can anyone tell me what they'll do to the EPA?
Bryan — Iran doesn't even have a single nuke (and if they do get one in a few years…. it will be so weak I'll smoke it instead of a Cohiba)!
Ah sorry i misspoke. I was just trying to hint that although Iran's Nuclear program has a chance to make a nuke, its not a certainty.
How can you smoke a nuke O.o
Bryan — LOL!
As a cigar aficionado (my humidor consisting of Cohibas, Motecristos, Partagas, etc.) I'll surmise that if Iran ever develops a nuke it'll be weaker that any of my cigars….
I am curious about the language part of the debate… I am partial about making English official, but it is important to remember that when people emigrated to America up to 20yrs ago, learning English was a requirement! Parents of young children would force them to speak English at home. There was no need for a law. Instead of making English official, take advantage of the great diversity we have and teach them to our youth! Part of the issue is that English is not being taught correctly today, regardless of age. If it were to be taught correctly at a young age, then another language can be introduced at a young age, such as 5th grade. Then a 3rd language can be introduced in high school. Someone can be speaking 4 languages by the time they finish college!
the language thing is important in Florida because to get a job down there, most employers require you to speak spanish, and it's getting out of control, in some towns and cities, they want the street signs to be in spanish as well as english,etc.
As a democratic leaning conservative who has never found a single republican who I have wanted to vote for before, I must say that republicans would be crazy not to make Ron Paul their candidate. Ron Paul is the only honest one of the bunch (minus Santorum, who is just far to right leaning), and the only one who has any shot at gaining the votes of independents and left-leaning people like me who are looking for a legitimate alternative to voting for Obama. Ron Paul recognizes that increasing government involvement in things like the economy, and increased spending on foreign wars are not helping the financial struggles of our country. Paul is also extremely consistent in his views, and you know what you are getting when you vote for him, unlike Romney whom you have no idea what he might stand for in a couple of years. It has also become the norm in politics that if you are a republican you must hold strictly conservative viewpoints, and democrats must be entirely liberal. Ron Paul has a more "a la carte" style in that he chooses both liberal and conservative stances on various issues, in accordance with what he believes is right. Basically what I am getting at is that if you want any chance of getting Obama out of office, you need to shake things up and vote for someone who has a chance at both catching non-republican votes, and also having a chance of actually making a difference in our country.
Democratic leaning independent*
it's all about Newt and Mitt- Ron Paul gets ignored - as other people have posted.
The US is a great country, because of its constitution! Who else than a libertarian like Ron Paul can make it great again! Everything he says makes perfect sense! The only problem he has is that he doesn't talk to the audience and viewers as if they were five years old. Mitt is addressing people as if they are some dumb asses! And I guess from his point of view they (or WE) all are. Billionaire Mitt talking to the stupid voters… at least that's how he comes across.
Ron Paul addresses important issues and doesn't sugar coat them- if we as the people get our $h!t together and educate ourselves about politics and economics there is only one choice- Dr. Ron Paul.
Valid observation — someone said the more you listen to Newt, the less you like him.
And since he's been talking endlessly, he should lose big in FL today. Without Newt in the running, Ron Paul's message will have to be accorded greater exposure (instead of the Newt-Mitt dog-and-pony show that preempts air-time).
Floridians — it's up to you to make a difference today!
2/3 of all Floridians have already early voted and Romney is leading by a landslide. The news shows, or the devil mainstream media as Newt calls it, has been showing the numbers all day today.
S. — don't know how the total count distribution will be at end of day. But of one thing I'm certain — Julie will lose her paycheck….
Mitt misuses the term "coyotes". I live in Arizona, and have lived here for 35 years. Coyotes are people who cross the dangerous deserts in order to get into America. While driving the interstates of southern Arizona, one will often see "coyotes" running across the highway with bags of oranges and jugs of water. Mitt describes "coyotes" as human traffic-ers. As in, the people who smuggle others across. These people are smugglers, not coyotes. He needs to educate himself before using vernacular he doesn't understand. And, the fact is, this term is derogatory. The fact that he uses it at all is as offensive as calling black people who come to America illegally, n*ggers.
Ron Paul, 2012! He's the only choice.
Matteo, actually you are incorrect and Romney is correct on that point. I used to work for Immigration and Customs Enforcement and the "coyote" is the smuggler not the illegal coming across the border. That's how it is taught in FLETC (Federal Law Enforcement Training Center) in Glinco, Georgia where almost all federal law enforcement agencies get their training.
Then you have the dictionary definition:
Thesaurus:
1. coyote - small wolf native to western North Americacoyote - small wolf native to western North America
brush wolf, Canis latrans, prairie wolf
wolf - any of various predatory carnivorous canine mammals of North America and Eurasia that usually hunt in packs
coydog - offspring of a coyote and a dog
2. coyote - someone who smuggles illegal immigrants into the United States (usually across the Mexican border)
contrabandist, moon curser, moon-curser, runner, smuggler - someone who imports or exports without paying duties
Do a simple google search of "coyote illegal immigrants" and you'll find hundreds of thousands of articles like these:
http://dallasfed.org/research/border/tbe_orrenius.html
"…we can look at illegal immigrants' tendency to hire smugglers, also known as "coyotes," and the evolution of coyote prices over time. Migrants are more likely to hire coyotes when they perceive a higher chance of apprehension were they to attempt a crossing on their own. If coyotes are more in demand or if risks increase, as is the case when criminal penalties on smuggling are increased, then we expect coyote use and prices to rise."
http://banderasnews.com/0509/eded-coyote.htm
"…But Fernando, a "coyote" who asked that his last name not be used for fear of tipping off Mexican officials, has arranged for hundreds of illegal migrants to cross into Mexico's northern neighbor over the past dozen years…"
http://www.denverpost.com/immigration/ci_7528917
U.S. businesses help "coyotes" smuggle illegal immigrants
PHOENIX — Smugglers who bring illegal immigrants into the U.S. are getting crucial help from seemingly legitimate businesses that supply them with cars, plane tickets and other services, knowing full well what's going on.
At the end (~1:47) Rick Santorum endorses Ron Paul.
Regardless of who we elect, our country is in a lot of financial trouble and its going to take a lot more than just one president to fix the mess. We need a senate and congress on board as well.
Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan cost US (arguably) 2 - 4 trillion over 7 years. Iraq was the unprecedented first war in US history that was waged entirely on credit. On October 31'st, 2011, US debt exceeded 100% of the American GDP at around 15 trillion. 35% of Democrats support a war against Iran and twice as many Republicans agree. Its not "IF", its "WHEN" they go to war, and since Iran is larger in population than all three above mentioned countries, it will be very expensive. Not to mention your national debt is roughly equal to the Social Security liabilities you owe.
You guys are in deep trouble. Its no wonder all the Republican candidates are "Pro Life". The only thing you all agree with to address the debt issue is your firm commitment to growing the population out of such a high per capita debt load. I'm surprised you all don't have a wide open immigration policy to help that along.
The Republican Primary debate is my favorite reality show up here, and CNN is like Entertainment Tonight to pump that up. I love watching it, because its so damn frustrating.
I was a Ron Paul fan, but honestly, I really don't think he wants to be president. He's a bit of a narrow minded martyr. I can see past his fumbling and unpleasant manner, but I refuse to ignore his choice to go so easy on the other candidates. So many times a more motivated and hungry candidate could have delivered death blows to the other candidates, but all we get from Ronny is this humble subtle 'suggestion' of an attack. I swear he's a Canadian at heart. So frustrating.
So go out and vote for what ever lessor of three evils and feel good about being involved, but you have no man up there that will challenge Obama. Because once this Republican debates are over and your not surrounded by Republican bias, Obama is going to win on charisma alone. Lets not pretend the vast majority of swing states aren't going be terrified by the republican alternative.
Mitt's a mark because he's too rich. Newt scares the moderates, and Santorum is just too young and unfunded to compete. Republican's don't have a chance until 2016.
As for Obama, as I've said before on one of these pages, he took over a room full of heroin addicts that were being enabled by an autonomous Fed methadone clinic. Of course he's going to be blamed and made to look bad being 'the guy in charge' during your counties struggles. He's going to remind everyone that the Bush years created this, the Bush government's last move was initiating the stimulous package, and 95% of all that is bad in your country is something that is the equivalent of a 'pre existing condition' so of course Obama will draw clear blame lines in his defense. Fact checkers will verify him and your party has really nowhere to go but down once the playing field is open to a Democratic involvement in the debates.
Moving on. Up here, were all watching in awe of the blind partisan orgy that is this Republican Debate. And we're saving up all our yard work for you once it starts to really unravel down there. Don't worry, we got your back.
You will get slammed here by the hard core republicans but you are correct in so many issues it's not even funny. As an independent voter I see what you see also but not completely exact.
I finally picked Romney over Gingrich but I'm still trying to decide between Romney and Obama and I'm sure that if Obama had been working with a Congress that wanted to work to make this economy better, we would have seen major changes in the economy. Still with all the obstructionism look what he's accomplishing.
I'll keep an open mind until the real debates start between Obama and Romney but if anyone other than Romney gets picked then I'll have no choice but to vote for Obama. Also whoever I pick I'll also vote for Congress for all in that same party so whoever the incoming President is he can have a working Congress and not a stalemate like this President has had.