In case you missed the Presidential Forum from Saturday night's "Huckabee" program on Fox News, here is the entire replay video. Six GOP candidates participated in the forum, taking questions from 3 state Attorneys General, on the topic of Federal power versus States' rights.
Air Time: Saturday, December 3, 2011 at 8pm ET on Fox News
Candidates: Romney, Bachmann, Gingrich, Santorum, Paul, Perry
Here is the entire video courtesy of MRCTV:
Report from Politico:
The presidential race began Saturday with Herman Cain’s dramatic, theatrical exit from the contest, but it ended with a substantive and subdued discussion of constitutional issues at Mike Huckabee’s presidential forum.
Each allotted an equal, set amount of time, six 2012 hopefuls – Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry, Michele Bachmann, Rick Santorum and Ron Paul – fielded questions on issues of state sovereignty and federal power from a friendly panel of Republican moderators.
Huckabee hosted the forum on an extended version of his Fox News show, and invited three Republican state attorneys general – Ken Cuccinelli of Virginia, Pam Bondi of Florida and Scott Pruitt of Oklahoma – to question the candidates.
“We heard more about the Constitution more than every other debate combined,” Bondi concluded at the end of the two-hour event.
It was an opportunity for the candidates to pay homage to Huckabee – who has so far stayed neutral in the 2012 GOP primary. He’ll hold a similar forum in Iowa, focused on abortion, on Dec. 14.
Overall the format was a welcome change from the typical debate format and provided some insight into how each candidate thinks. The questions were well-put from the panelists and it allowed for each candidate to show some strengths and weaknesses on various topics.
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I had no other way to view this forum tonight.
Thank you Nate!
Thank you for upload this! It's 3a, and I'm watching this on your site… I always use your site to watch the debates post live stream for follow up purposes.
"Public-Private Partnerships" define Mussolini's Fascism. Cross reference "Public Private Partnerships and Mussolini" in your search engine so that you may educate yourselves. After you determine that I am indeed correct; meaning, Newt and Mit are openly advocating Fascism in America; yet, you still want to support Newt or Mit, do freedom a favor and stay home.
Good call Christopher. You are 100% spot on!
Finally, a debate without the empty-headed, cliche-driven over-simplification of Herman Caine. Thank you ladies and liars alike.
One good take-away here on Rick Santorum — his summation helped me understand for the first time his campaign is entirely based on values and contains, by contrast, virtually no substance. Nothing wrong with that in a time when there are no problems of substance. But that ain't right now. It's a luxury we can't afford in the next term and it's a dalliance that's, on balance, distracting.
Rick Santorum..? Are you on crack?
And who is to say that his values are moral and should be imposed on every american? I don't mind him thinking the way he thinks, the crazier the merrier, but don't suggest that you are going to reinforce your opinions on every living creature. Thats simply not right and against everything this country is. "Nothing wrong with that"? I don't care if its today or a hundred years form now, Everything is wrong with that.
Right you are Dave. What has happened to Americans that they have lost the understanding of how freedom works. Freedom isn't saying to the people "You are free to think and do as you wish so long as it meets my personal perception of what's right and what's wrong". Freedom is saying "That dude painted his house an ugly orange color and worships the Easter Bunny, lives alone in the woods and stinks like hell but it's HIS BUSINESS!". While we may indeed have some common shared values, the most important shared American shared value of all is the right to be "Different".
Republicans aren’t principally concerned with solving problems; their goals are ideological.
Ron Paul`s right eyebrow
)) notice that it starts to morph whenever he is caught unprepared to answer a question… you can`t put a price on that 
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Thank you so much for putting this on
Donald Trump's comments on Ron Paul's chances at winning the nomination should disqualify Trump from taking any part in this process other than casting his one vote in the state of New York.
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The 3 AG's who interviewed them concluded that Rick Perry articulated Federalism the most effectively.
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This forum really helped me narrow the character and policies each candidate holds to. I've narrowed my choices to Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney as front runners. This is simply because both come across as the most level headed and experienced for the position. However, I believe Michelle Bachman would make a wonderful Presidential advisor. I believe the jury is still out on Rick Perry. His intentions and values are good; however, he came across as a little "green" in the Presidential forum and nervous. A Presidential candidate needs to be strong and confident in his beliefs. I respect Ron Paul, although, he appears to lose his train of thought easily. Not good.. In conclusion, I would like the candidates to address what qualities they are looking for in a Vice Presidential Co-Runner. This is a two man/woman team. Giving examples of their campaign Vice Presidential candidates would allow the American People to judge if they are good fits for this nation and where we need to go in the future.
Ron Paul has some pretty good economic ideas but lets face it, he has a horrible approach to foreign policy. He doesn't consider terrorist attacks an act of war?! How can we trust him to defend our nation and keep us a strong military power? Will he stand up to enemies or will he back down?
We should never go to war over a terrorist attack. When we go to war so carelessly the wars never end.
Then you end up like in Iraq with thousands more Americans dead and near a million Iraqi innocent people dead all because of one attack from one terrorist organization. Mike we went to war against terrorists and any country that has terrorists- we have terrorists in our own country and courts to have trials in.
Think of the Tonkin incident that happened in vietnam millions and millions of people dead and for what? Im just proud of our good service men. The people that forced them to go should have been tried.
You realize that the only way in hell Ron will go to war is if it is constitutional and the members all vote for it. You know, the legal way.
Mike – I would also add that I too have many National Defense concerns but they have more to do with what the neoconservative philosophy that now dominates both parties has done to our nation. If you're a history buff you're aware of the major part our industrial might played in winning World War II. While most of us have been trained to think economic and national security issues are different, in truth they can't be separated. It's our Airplanes, Ships, and Tanks that overwhelmed the enemy in our last true defensive war.
The neoconservative policies have raped this country and shipped all of our industry and jobs overseas with laws written by the same lobbyist and industrial complexes both Eisenhower and Kennedy warned us about. Our problems go a lot deeper than most people understand. There is now little difference in parties and technically the USA is now a corporatocracy. The free enterprise capitalism that built our country and employed our people and built the weapons that won our wars is gone. Corporatism and Capitalism are mutually exclusive.
Ron Paul wants to change this but honestly, there is no way he can do it alone. It is too ingrained in our system. We would have to kick out just about every congressman we have and start over again. For this to happen requires an educated populace who know what's going on. It is a daunting task indeed.
To anyone who believes Ron Paul doesn't look like he belongs on that stage, you're right. Neither would Eisenhower, Goldwater, Reagan or Kennedy for that matter. That's not a bad thing as far as I'm concerned.
Mike – Congressman Paul supported going into Afghanistan and attacking those who attacked us on 9/11. He voted to give the President the authority to use force there. However, Congressman Paul noted that using force against the Taliban was not a declaration of war. He stated that to declare war against a group that is not a country makes the clear declaration of war more complex. Congressman Paul argued that the best tool the framers of the Constitution provided under those circumstances was the power of Congress to grant letters of marque and reprisals. He cautioned against entering into such a vague and undefined war, but in the end supported the resolution to use force as it was the only option available and doing nothing was unthinkable. Congressman Paul's desire was to have clearly defined objectives that would be provided in letter of reprisal or a declaration of war. An authorization to use force provides no clarity as to scope and purpose.
He doesn't define a terrorist act as an act of war, because he's using "war" in the technical sense, whereas most people are using it in the "something horribly violent" sense. When you consider war as a specific type of action in legal and historical context, 9/11 was not an act of war. Paul struggles to express himself clearly, sometimes, but if you think about how the military and the executive branch have become almost unaccountable to Congress and the people, and what that bodes for the future of a republic, he makes a lot more sense. Frankly, Paul is a thinking person's candidate. He isn't going to force-feed you slogans, but if you consider what he says in some depth, and look at our prospects beyond just the next four years, you'll see why so many people are moving toward him.
So Mike you think 9/11 is justification to go to war with Iraq, Afganastan, Yemman, Pakistan, Libya, Syria, Iran, etc. etc. etc.
The terrorists involved in 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia!!! People are no longer pissed off that no weapons of mass destruction were found in Iraq? Foreign Policy will not change as the Presidents do that should at least wake you up to the fact that people behind the scenes are dictating foreign policy. They are now broadening the use the the word Al Qaeda to mean other orginizations as well. Is this to further the justification for War? I wonder.
Friendly moderators? lol they were like sharks hahaha.
I am voting for Dr. Ron **THE BOSS** PAUL 2012!
Ron Paul is the one for me! He doesn't want wars….. he needs to get rid of terrible things like the "Agenda 21" that Obbama likes.
Must see and hear this……… OMG! This explains tons!!
Depopulation Agenda 21 Simplified – Must Watch
http://www.youtube.com/?watch?v=Wg-v2A-KtDI&NR=1&featur?e=endscreen
Anyone with a brain and a good heart must say "No" to this plan! IMO
Mike
Ron Paul has clarified his position in past debates. He was in support of Congress declaring war to take down Osama Bin Laden. Congress did not declare war. We must demand Congress adhere to our laws or any President of any party can become a tyrant.
I support Ron Paul's position declare war or non-intervention.
Does anyone know where I can view the recent Huckabee GOP Presidential Forum? The one listed above which is from MRC TV is not the forum. It is a kind of pre-discussion just with Gingrich alone.
It's the right video. The candidates appear one at a time for about 20 minutes each.
More like 12 minutes each because the commercials are removed.
Also Fox News is going to re-air the program tonight, Sun. 12/04/11, at 8 P.M. Eastern Time.
Thanks for that. Lack of understanding on my part. I didn't realize that was the way they organized this "forum".
It's posted on this very site 2012 Election Central
Video: Watch the entire Huckabee GOP Presidential Forum
We don't have a lot to choose from. I learned a great deal from the candidates with this type of forum. I'm still undecided, but I can say I will not vote for Newt Gingrich or Mitt Romney. They both have poor records. Gingrich with Fannie/Freddie and Romney with Romney care. I like what Ron Paul has to say and I like that he is cutting the budget starting at the top and fighting for our liberties. Unfortunately, his age worries me and to stand up against Obama we need someone who is strong. Paul look tired and he has difficulties in getting his point across. Perry sounded better in this type of forum and I liked his ideas, especially Congress going part time.(love it) I am going to watch him closer. I do feel he needs to get his anxiety under control before he takes on Obama. Not being able to focus when he gets nervous is not going to help when he's going against Obama. Bachman knows a great deal on the problems we have in America and what is going on but not enough solutions and ideas on how she would handle the problems. Santorum, I don't like. Too spoiled. I admit, I am in a delima and we have to vote in January. I will have to weigh who comes close to what I want my President to be and do to get this country back on track. I will decide. Thanks Mike Huckabee for the this forum.
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Seems like its in the best interests of this Country to have the Republican Candidates for President reach as many citizens as possible with their thoughts and plans for our Country, and not be limited to only members of the general public who can afford Cable TV!!!
George, It is on the internet too, right here where you are blogging. You can still see it. There is a commerical first, just keep watching the video.
You can see all the past and futute debates at:
http://www.2012presidentialelectionnews.com/2012-debate-schedule/2011-2012-primary-debate-schedule/
I am an undecided voter. I like a lot of what Ron Paul says. Many of his ideas about free market principles, the federal reserve, and foreign policy seem to make sense even though they are very different than what other candidates are proposing. Did he really just discuss nullification though?? I am all for shifting power back to the states and the citizens, but nullification would essentially bring the nation back to a confederation as opposed to a federal union. I am not for that.
JC, I was surprised at that too, and agree with your position–though it's worth mentioning it was a divisive issue between the founding fathers. Here's what I'd tell you: I'm not for everything Paul is for, but I'm voting for him anyway because our system needs to be seriously shaken up, and he'd move things in the right direction. We don't elect dictators in America–though Bush and Obama might have missed the memo–so you don't have to embrace everything about a candidate to vote for them. America would be more free after four years of a Ron Paul administration. There's my two cents.
I'm sticking with the Aggie/Pilot Governor of Texas….We live those conservative solutions in Texas.
Now that Cain's gone, Santorum needs to follow. How exactly does faith (to Jesus' dad) and family (man, woman, 2.3 kids, dog) solve our problems? I get that it's important to some people, but it's not a solution, let alone something that tops all other issues. The other five may have had their spots at the top of the polls, but this is a message that just can't gain traction with more than a small subset of the population.
Perry's blown it, and I don't think Bachmann will regain her earlier numbers, though I agree with the earlier response that she should have a position within the administration. As a tax attorney, strong proponent of balanced budgets, businesswoman, and member of the Intelligence Committee, she's got the experience to be of use in some capacity.
It's becoming a clearer two man race with Gingrich and Romney at the top. Unlike the others who have briefly passed Romney, Gingrich has the experience and knowledge to really give him a run. Then there's Paul. As much as I like him, mostly, his uphill battle keeps looking like it will land him in close but no cigar territory.
Mike – Congressman Paul supported going into Afghanistan and attacking those who attacked us on 9/11. He voted to give the President the authority to use force there. However, Congressman Paul noted that using force against the Taliban was not a declaration of war. He stated that to declare war against a group that is not a country makes the clear declaration of war more complex. Congressman Paul argued that the best tool the framers of the Constitution provided under those circumstances was the power of Congress to grant letters of marque and reprisals. He cautioned against entering into such a vague and undefined war, but in the end supported the resolution to use force as it was the only option available and doing nothing was unthinkable. Congressman Paul's desire was to have clearly defined objectives that would be provided in letter of reprisal or a declaration of war. An authorization to use force provides no clarity as to scope and purpose.
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Watching this forum has strengthened my opinion of Newt being my first choice, and Mit being second. Newt just has more scholarship and the needed experience for president. I also see Ron Paul just does not have the charisma to sway anyone toward his way of thinking. Charisma is required in the office of president. Ron has a few hard core followers.
@B Anderson – I feel you may have some misinformation on Ron Paul – when he first ran he had some hardcore followers, the second time he ran those hardcore followers developed into quite a large population, this third time around he has the attention of a lot more people, hard core and not. As an earlier comment states, "you don't need to embrace ALL of a candidates policies to support that candidate" – remember our President is not a dictator. Also I would argue that Ron Paul has quite a bit of charisma. He is charismatic in that he speaks from experience instead of dreams, he speaks with truth and facts instead of "feel-good stories" – either way you are correct in that charisma is important, and while he may not be the MOST charismatic of individuals he does carry himself well. I think where he loses is that when he responds to a question he takes multiple things into consideration. He actually thinks about the question which usually looks like to us that he doesn't know how to answer, but really he is formulating his answer, slow down let him think. He also takes into consideration the definition of words used, not only the literal definition but also the medias definition – this prevents him from getting caught up in those situations where a person says something and it means something completely different than what they intended.
I too was on the fence between Paul and Gingrich – however after last nights debate I have taken Gingrich off my plate, I was unaware of his involvement in Fannie/Freddie and some of the other organizations. Romney is another salesman/businessman and our government and the people are neither for sale nor in business.
@E Anderson- You are absolutely right that Ron Paul takes a lot into consideration when answering a question. Every problem that this country is facing today, was the result of several missteps. Articulating that in one or two sentences, is almost impossible. What you said about him preventing from getting caught up in situations where a person says something and it being taken out of context, is spot on. The same can be said for how the constitution has been interpreted. And I believe that is the message that Ron Paul is trying to get across. The clincher for me, after watching this debate, was that Ron Paul clearly stated that it would take time to faze out certain programs, but was firm on the fact that they needed to go.
It was a great Forum. I will like to see another one about their personal family life, showing big pictures. Have them talk about their college education, degree, specializations, and accomplishment in business and governmental experiences. They should comment why they believe that they are the best candidate to ignite our economy again
i'm glad i found this, i was afraid i was not going to get to see the debate. every one had good points on several topics . i would be happy to vote for any of them over obama . i liked the format of the debate . thanks mike.
I believe that knowing the family back grown of a candidate is important. The character of the candidate and fidelity toward the spouse is very important. We don’t want a prostitute, a sexual predator, a mistress, an alcoholic, a physical or emotional abusing person in White House. We already had and adulterous President that we loved so much as a great president, but he abused his power disrespecting the Oval Office in adultery. He was bright and very capable as president, but we cannot forget…
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Thank you for this video, I had no other way to watch this debate, and now that we lost Cain, this debate has helped me to narrow down my two choices for Republican primary to be Newt and Mitt. I will vote for the one that is better equipped to win again Obama. Anyone but Obama in 2012!
I ask of you to please reconsider. Looking at the track record of Gingrich reveals some very interesting associations. I can not trust a president who has been involved in the organizations in the way that Gingrich has. I do have to admit, Gingrich is brilliant, however I do not think he has the people in mind.
Romney is just another salesman/businessman and the people are not for sale and our country is not a business.
E Anderson – I agree with most of your comment, except for the "our country is not a business." If we don't start running our government more like a business, we're going to be bankrupt. I'm not a huge Mitt fan, definitely not Newt, but in the end I trust Mitt to leave us better off over the next 4 years than anyone else.
Ron Paul is a lunatic…he makes my head hurt….
Libertarianism – Marxism of the Right
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/article/2005/mar/14/00017/
I have read through all of these comments and was impressed at how thoughtful and serious all the comments were. There was no name childish calling and everyone was simply stating their concerns and opinions and discussing what reasoning they used to come to whatever conclusion they came to. That's pretty cool. Then I came upon the very last comment by stage9. Whether I hear name calling from someone who calls themselves a "Conservative" or a "Liberal" or a democrat or a Republican, it doesn't matter. It simply tells me that person has nothing intelligent to say and nothing to add. There is nothing for anyone to learn. I realize that it's often a very young person and I also realize our educational system in this country is failing horribly and we don't even teach our kids 8th grade civics class anymore. I also understand the combative TV news and reality shows we watch contribute greatly to the dumbing down of America. Still, at the end of the day, that's no excuse. If you're gonna get in a grown up conversation then act like a grown up. I look forward to the day when I can read through an entire forum without taking two steps forward and three steps back.
I want to know why my comment at 7:17 is still "awaiting moderation" when I have not said anything inappropriate or inaccurate?
Cause I'm only one person and can't monitor 24 hours a day. Don't worry, you've been approved.
Nate,
Fair enough. Thanks for sorting it out and the reply. Cheers.
Dear Moderator,
You have my e-mail address and I would appreciate a reply as to why my comment at 7:17 is still "awaiting moderation"; especially, since you have approved other comments posted after mine.
Stage9 is a dumb kid. Your tolerance of his non contribution is a celebration of your first amendment. Kids can't control themselves when given a completely anonymous opportunity to be heard.
The day you "can read through an entire forum without taking two steps forward and three steps back", is the day your rights and freedoms will have been compromised.
Be careful what you wish for.
Canuk – Thanks for the reminder. Next time I see a post I don't like, while I might still complain, I'll also smile inside because it'll be a reminder that aside from the fact we're getting dumbed down, still, all is well. The way I look at it, the guy you don't particularly like may grow up to be the next Steve Jobs or Henry Ford or he might be the guy who would jump out in front of an oncoming car and save your child's life. You just never know!
Wow, they aren't teaching 8th grade civics near you anymore? That is an atrocity. Since I have been done with highschool in 99' I left feeling very strongly that the education system should enforce 4 years of civics and 2 years of "English" – Civics are the rules by which we all must live! How can that NOT be important!!!!!
This was absolutely WONDERFUL! I am so weary of the whole "Let's make you look foolish and quarrelsome" thing that I don't even watch the debates. This was revealing, concise and respectful. Kudos to Gov. Huckabee and the three Attny. Generals. My take on this event is that, Santorum is a gentlemen and a man with clear convictions and should get back to the Senate. Ron Paul is a great Rep. and defender of the Constitution, please keep at that important task. Ms. Bachman is dedicated, intelligent and passionate. President? No. Cabinet or Sr. Admin. Yes. Gov. Perry, not this time, maybe a little more experience on the national stage but boy I wouldn't think twice about moving to TX. and please come back in four years. Romney, I grew up in MA. He's not evil, conservative or passionate. He is a skilled and calculating businessman and POLITICIAN. Sorry Mitt, I got to much history with you. Newt, hmmm… intelligent, ambitious and perhaps a bit arrogant. All are needed, in proper amounts, to be a good leader. Does he have a strong moral compass and some humility to temper his other traits and has he learned from past failures and short comings? I am unsure. If he can prove to me that he has , he will most likely get my vote.
"Public-Private Partnerships" define Mussolini's Fascism. Cross reference "Public Private Partnerships and Mussolini" in your search engine so that you may educate yourselves. After you determine that I am indeed correct; meaning, Newt and Mit are openly advocating Fascism in America; yet, you still want to support Newt or Mit, do freedom a favor and stay home.
Thank you Christopher. More and more people are getting it. For that matter, dare I say it, Nazi Germany was set up the same way. I hate it when I hear the term "Crony Capitalism" because that implies we just have a few crooked good old boys and we can kick out a few of them and be rid of the corruption and everything's gonna be OK. The truth is it a cancer which has taken over the entire system. To fix it and return to Capitalism Requires us to kick out everyone and shut the revolving doors. We lost a war most Americans didn't even know we were fighting and we lost it from within. We still use friendly American terms like "Free Trade", Capitalism", "Freedom", and "Liberty" but we're now a corporatocracy.
What makes this so painful is that there are no bizarre conspiracies to uncover. It's all right in front of us in plain sight for anyone who wishes to see. They seem to know we the people can easily be fooled and manipulated. All they have to do is demagogue a few issues and pretend there are two parties and a left and a right and few if any of us will notice. Those who do can easily be dismissed as "Crazy".
Well, here is "Crazy" for you: How about Emergency Room visits which would cost $250 under Capitalism but cost $6,500 under a corporatocracy? How bout a Major Surgery that would be maybe $3500-$5000 under Capitalism vs your life savings and home under a corporatocracy?
The roots go far back. How about the marijuana laws dictated by the likes of Dow Chemical and Dupont and william randolph hearst who was in danger of loosing his vast timber fortune because of competition from hemp. How bout that leading to the the USA, the "Land of the Free" Imprisoning more of her people than any nation in history? More than Russia, North Korea, China, Iraq, Iran or any place in the world? What are your kids doing tonight? Do you know where your kids are? Regardless of what your opinion is or whether you buy government lies or choose to believe the scientific data that claims pot is one of the least addictive and safest substances man can consume, and is much safer than alcohol and has many beneficial properties, either way, I'm sure most of you would conclude a $50 fine would be a less insane way to deal with it. $50 fine vs sending your kid to prison for 10 years. Hmmmm.
Of course, we have to take into consideration, like the MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX Eisenhower warned us about, and we ignored, we also now have a PRISON AND JUSTICE INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX, and to support and feed that, just like the military and our offensive wars, we have to feed it. Again, Without your kids going to prison the whole thing falls apart.
I can keep on going with this. They ALL contribute to YOUR congressman. The pharmaceuticals, the power companies, the educational system, the banking and money supply, the trial lawyers and so on. You get the point. All of you should feel lucky we're still not using land lines instead of Cell Phones. I would have figured MA Bell would have had cell phones outlawed and the cell carriers shut down. That's the kind of stuff that happens when you have a Corporatism. Products don't succeed or fail based on their merits, but instead on laws that throw a wrench in capitalism.
We were warned. Eisenhower warned us. Goldwater warned us. Even John F Kennedy warned us. I guess they thought we were smarter than we are. There is one guy and one guy only who maybe can fix it and honestly it's probably too late for him unless everyone get behind him and kicks out everyone in congress. If you're not gonna vote for that one humble old man with principles you may as well vote for Obama. There will be no difference. Personally, I believe if we do elect Ron Paul "They" will kill him. I believe the "system" is too big to fail and too much is at stake for "Them" to let one little old man walk in and start dismantling it. If we do elect him, that's when it's gonna start really get interesting. Then….. We'll all know.
William,
I would recommend that you attempt to get people to do the same. Get them to cross reference terms and we can take back our country from these Fascists/Corporatist/Third Wayers. Then, post it on every comment section on as many sites as possible. Hit sites like Wall Street Journal, Fox, CNN, Politico, NY Times, CNBC, Washington Post, etc. Spread the word and educate. We are the resistance.
Christopher – There's a stark difference in those who have access to the internet and use it to research and process news and information and those who depend primarily on the media for their information. Unfortunately the elderly are the least likely to have access to the information they need to make an intelligent decision and they are the most likely to vote. This will change in time, but we don't have any time left. Your point is well taken and I've been active in trying to bring attention to the many sources of information available on the internet. Once people understand everything they need to know is freely available the blinders come off and it's a very exhilarating experience. Thanks to people like you and millions like you, people are waking up and that includes the seniors. Once they learn their own country has been lying to them and has an agenda, they are just as pissed as you or me and quickly become activist to save this nation so their children and grandchildren can know the same America we all once knew.
Excellent comments! I have selected a few and reposted on facebook — thanks for the introduction and definition direction for Private-public enterprise and the relationship to facism, that was an eyeopener for me…however I already didn't like the idea of private-public, I just did not know why.
William, one more thing. Not my Congressman b/c my Congressman is Ron Paul. For real.
William W – Excellent post on Corporatism / corporatocracy. There sure are a lot of crazy people voting for crazy uncle Ron, huh? Must be something in the water, but that's another conspiracy. As far as this whole thing being a Conspiracy, it is, & has only now being openly implemented. A new World Government is the ultimate goal. If you can, check out a 1948 issue of LIFE Magazine w/ an article titled "World Government". It will tell you all you need to know to put the pieces together, with what you already know.
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As a Canadian, I can only comment as an observer here. The debate format was good in the sense it made it easier for the candidates to clearly 'sound bite' their answers, but I like to see how candidates respond to challenges from one another. Its usually very telling about their commitment and depth.
Personally, I think the biggest tradegy is that Ron Paul loses support on his delivery alone. He seems to have the most knowledge and least delusions about the reality of your country at present. His foreign policy scares alot of you, but its really the best approach. In good times with a trade surplus minimal debt and great strides of wealth, if US was the envy of the world, it would be your privilege and moral choice to take a more proactive role in foreign policy matters, but the fact is you just can't afford it right now. For this reason you only have one choice and that is to hear and respect what Ron Paul is saying. When China dump your debt, you will desparately need to be as prepared as you can be and if not, you'll be crossing my boarder and cutting my grass. Think about it. As a Canadian, I guess I'm good either way. Balls in your court.
Being old enough to remember what life was like without medicare, medicaid, the Dept. of Education, EPA, etc, not having government agencies run by corporations, I am all for Ron Paul. He is the only person who can lead our country back to a modicum of what we have lost and do it in a safe, thoughtful way.
I would much prefer a President who is intelligent and well educated vs one who readily makes glib remarks or reads well from a teleprompter. Unfortunately, I remember a great deal about Newt Gingrich including his support of NAFTA against the wishes of many conservatives, his support of illegal amnesty, among others. Though he is both intelligent and articulate, he has used that to confound the public in the past and is quite liberal in most of his thinking even while professing conservatism. He is a long-time member of the Council on Foreign Relations, a Rockefeller founded institution. If anyone knows anything about history, it is to know that David Rockefeller is working diligently for a one world order and is also a huge proponent of the United Nations. You can draw conclusions about the company one keeps and I don't like the company Newt keeps. I will vote for Ron Paul because he isn't fringe or extreme. He is a classic conservative and a very healthy one at that.
You must be mentally challenged if you cannot see that the only candidate that addresses the real issues at hand is Ron Paul. Every other candidate is a joke and is just out there for money and power and their ego.
Thanks for uploading this. Missed it at work and have seen every debate thus far. Thank God finally… each candidate gets EQUAL time to speak. I wish every primary debate was like this. Fair. Kudos to Huckabee and the Attorney Generals on this program.
Proud supporter of Ron Paul 2012.
Are you sure about that? This debate was a safe and simple, more easily controllable format for fox. If you eliminate the interaction between candidates, you miss out on alot of good information. The candidate that believes in him self and wants it bad enough, will rise to the occasion and respond appropriately and intelligently to challenges from other candidates. The ones that don't when challenged, show their weakness in background and reveal whether they are the real deal or just propped up by a back room team.
This format to me is akin to picking my wife off of a dating site. I need to see some interaction. Anyone can answer questions. But only the real strong leaders can believe and project that while face to face with their opponents.
Life is full of hard tests. Tonight's debate was not one of them really.
I appreciate both of you comments Canuk, in fact I reposted the first one on my facebook. I would however like to add that this forum was a nice addition to the other types of debates. You are 100% correct in what you say, but I believe a good mix of different types of debates and forums allows the public to become more acquainted with each candidates "ideas" and then knowing those ideas can much more visibly see the flaws when a real debate happens. Just my two cents on that.
Ron paul has such a ridiculous foreign policy, I cant believe he has supporters.Would you like our country to get bombed again Ron Paul supporters? Go newt or perry!!!
We haven't been bombed since Pearl Harbor. Do you know what the Japanese general said after Pearl Harbor? "I will never invade America because it's citizens are more heavily armed than our entire military"
What causes you to think that we will get bombed if Paul's foreign policies were to be implemented?
The American military is literally 1/3 of the entire world's military combined. Also if we were to spend 1/2 of what we spend overseas on border security we would have a defense system so unbelievably advanced that bombs would never reach their destination. All of that money could be used to build high-tech defense systems that could intercept and airborn or naval threat and destroy in 2 seconds, literally!. Think about this, we have GPS systems for the public that are accurate within like 30 feet – the military has laser guided systems that are accurate withing 2 centimeters, our military could be aware of a coming threat minutes before it is even in range our defense grid. We have 40,000 troops overseas, imagine if those troops were instead at our ports and borders controlling the intake of people…we could be VERY secure if our Foreign Policy did not COST us so much.
Not to mention — we can barely afford to have our military stretched as far as it is…what makes you think another country or organization could afford to do the same back to us?
E Anderson
My great appreciation and kudos to you as well! You are needed in the fight for liberty please keep posting and share the above answer everywhere you can. There may be enough time yet to open the electorates minds!
Ron Paul 2012 National Sovereignty, Peace, Freedom, Prosperity and The Great Shining City On The Hill!