The first GOP debate aired on a national broadcast network took place Saturday evening from Wofford College in Spartanburg, South Carolina. Eight Republican candidates participated in the debate sponsored by CBS News, The National Journal and the South Carolina Republican Party. The topic of the debate focused primarily on foreign policy.
Original Air Time: Saturday, November 12, 2011 on CBS
Participants: Bachmann, Cain, Gingrich, Huntsman, Paul, Perry, Romney, Santorum
Here is the entire 80 minute debate video including the last 30 minute portion not aired on television by CBS:
Report from the LA Times:
The Republican presidential rivals took on national security policy Saturday night in a South Carolina debate that saw the field splinter over how candidates would deal with Pakistan, foreign aid and waterboarding, but largely united in their view that President Obama has weakened the nation’s standing in the world.
The topic has received scant attention in a campaign in which the dominant focus has been on the nation’s sputtering economy, and it is an area of weakness for several on stage for the latest debate. At times some candidates-notably businessman Herman Cain-glided over specifics. Cain repeatedly told questioners that if elected president he would quiz his advisors about the best course.
The sharpest divide came over whether waterboarding equated to torture, with Texas Rep. Ron Paul and former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman Jr. arguing that it clearly is-and is beneath the United States.
“This country has values. We have a name brand in the world,” Huntsman said. “We diminish our standing in the world and the values we project, including liberty, democracy and human rights and open markets, when we torture.”
Several others, including Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, disagreed, arguing that waterboarding, which both President Obama and GOP presidential nominee John McCain opposed in 2008, was an effective means of obtaining information from the nation’s enemies.
But Texas Gov. Rick Perry launched the most forceful defense of waterboarding, saying that all means possible should be used to extract information from those who would aim to hurt U.S. service personnel.
Overall I though the discussion and questions were substantive. The only major drawback was CBS' decision to air only the first 60 minutes on television for East coast viewers. Furthermore, the 60 minute length meant several candidates including Santorum, Paul, Bachmann and Huntsman were not given much face time.
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I'm glad they didn't waste a lot time on Ron Paul. We need to hear from legitimate Republican candidates. America should support Israel!
I liked H. Cain's approach on how decisions should be made as president,what scares me is that last "9" of his "999" plan.We cannot give the federal gov. another way to tax us. I was not comfortable with Rick Santorum approach to making decisions. It sounded like he would go into the presidency with only his pre-concieved opinions and views and not be open to any others, even if they were worthy of consideration..What he should of explained are his principles,and how decisions would be guided by them. Is it just me or has Bachmann changed her hairstyle a few times? The more they let Gingrich share his ideas, the more I'm convinced he's the most qualified to be P.O.T.U.S. For him to win, he has to get the mainstream media to like him. He needs to remember how R. Reagan personally interacted with media people, he won them over by wit & charm. Ron Paul? for President? he does seem to have fiercely loyal followers, but not enough of them. Romney? too cozy with big government.Perry?, well there's three reasons he would make a good president. 1)He has been governor of one of the largest, freest , thriving states in the union, 2)he seems willing to take decisive action to tackle tough challenges, and 3)……… he's real? OOOPs, can't have that!
WTF.. Ron Paul Gets nothing! CBS you are a joke and need to let the people decide not you.
[...] Here were the candidates' responses: [...]
Exactly as Romney described Pakistan, the USA IS 4 elements. The CIA, entirely separated by design but directing the USA military, the government puppets kept in the dark and hand picked for their willingness to remain puppets in the dark, and the population serving a corrupted monetary elite.
The media is an asset of the CIA, as admitted by former heads of the CIA.
The goal of media is to deceive. Propaganda carefully refined to tap into the fear of INTENTIONALLY MAINTAINED unknowns.
THIS TV CARTEL was your babysitter and remains so by its sickening massage of your fragile ego. You may as well believe in Santa Claus.
The cartel is not trying to fool you any more. This debate was an IQ test to determine if the USA is fully conditioned. Ms. Palin demonstrated the level of domestication achieved by the puppet masters 4 years ago.
The cartel seeks your voluntary submission so that they can save on cheese.
WATERBOARDING IS TORTURE!! - The head is tilted back and water is poured into the upturned mouth or nose. Eventually the subject cannot exhale more air or cough out more water, the lungs are collapsed, and the sinuses and trachea are filled with water. The subject is drowned from the inside, filling with water from the head down. The chest and lungs are kept higher than the head so that coughing draws water up and into the lungs while avoiding total suffocation. "His sufferings must be that of a man who is drowning, but cannot drown."
I thank everyone of the candidates should get the same amount of air time.
Is that it??
I think many of you are over-rating the intelligence of Newt. He may seem smart to the low-intelligence and low-information voter because he has been around for so many years and has had the time to memorize the retorical responses to so many issues but up against Obama,a truely much more intelligent fellow, he will get sliced and diced like an onion.
Obama is not just relying on a smartass rendition of the superficial republican rhetoric but now has an indepth knowledge of the issues and the presidency. I think there is a real danger of underestimating BHO. Newt,who I enjoy his wit, has gotten fat and lazy living a life style of excess,privledge and consumed by a greedy self-promotion that is obvious to the objective observer. His own people have abandoned him because he is unable to maintain the discipline necessary to mount a serious campaign for office of the president. Against Barach Obama, Obama will eat him for lunch as he spits out the bones of Osama Bin Laden and other terrorists at the hapless unprepared Newt.
Better off considering Mitt,Huntsman and even Perry. Newt will be cast as a joke out for diamonds and jewels to shower on his current wife and ultimately a boorish book salesman rather then a serious statesman. You have been warned.
I have been a supporter of Cain in recent weeks, but in this debate I have seen how little he knows about Foreign Affairs.
Of course, anyone can make Foreign Affairs more complicated than it should be. Cain is comfortable with himself as a problems solver with good common sense, and he beleives that with good people around him, he would make the right choice for America.
When Perry mentioned that all countries who draw Foreign Aid from the United States, would start out at zero, I thought this was a good idea.
I know when he said it, he would lose allot of people, but he was able to say afterward that each country, each years, would have to submit a declaration of funds, needed to run their countries.
In any profitable business, managers who oversee departments have to submit a yearly budget, so that the company executives can figure in those costs.
Over many years our Federal Government has given an allotment of cash "in advance" and these countries would use it unwisely or it got pilfered by corrupt leaders.
By instituting a pre-year budget by every country and then they must be accountable to use this money as they said they would, they may be elligible for more each year, that is "IF" the United States can afford to give it.
This is how a family household is run. This is how a corporation is run…Our Federal Governement must be accountible to this process if we are to pay down 1.1 Trillion dollars of debt in the next 10 years.
Agreed - come on guys. Fair time for each candidate regardless of the polls.
What a poorly hosted debate! Does the media look like morons or what???
W? Obama a more intelligent fellow than Newt? Obama can't even make a coherent sentence without a teleprompter. This country wouldn't be in this predicament if Obama was smart. But he's not smart. Neither are the people who voted the a$$clown into office.
The moron/trolls are out in full force. Ron Paul speaks the same thing without wavering no how matter far back you go. I do agree he needs to be more aggressive with the moderators deliberateness not asking him questions or (((allow him all the follow ups))) others get without fail.
The most evil thing on the planet has been the Federal Reserve!!! For that reason alone Ron Paul is untouchable on who endlessly sought to audit the Fed. No matter which candidate has now adopted anything toward the fed, RON PAUL HAS SAID IT ALL ALONG!!!
Since 1913 (98 years) we all have been enslaved with illegal income taxes!! There is NO LAW we have to pay them. Along with illegal income taxes The Federal Reserve is a SCAM created by foreign bankers on U.S. soil which is NOT part of the U.S. Federal Government!!
Guess what else? JFK ended The Federal Reserve 5 months before his murder Executive Order 11110 http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/thefederalreserve.htm
Recently people including former IRS agents have been found NOT guilty of either failing to file or not paying income taxes. How can this be? No juries asked to see the law before. See Aaron Russo's America: Freedom to Fascism
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173
JFK really tried to warn us of untold evil. Why were you(we) never taught this speech in school, and who had the power to suppress it. (JFK BEGGED THE MEDIA TO ALERT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, “THE MEDIA DID NOT”)
The President Who Told The TRUTH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaH-lGafwtE
Santorum, Paul, Bachmann and Huntsman all need to be removed from debates they have as much of a chance of winning as I do.
Jeff, if your standard for selecting a nominee is based on electability, then shame on you. You lack integrity. Unfortunately, the nominee will probably be the person with the least integrity, which ought to please you.
Did you see rick perry when newt ginrich said he agreed with him on starting foreign aid at zero.
He was like…. YESSSSSS see i told ya'll i could say something that made sense. LOL funny
RON PAUL 2012
screw every supporter who does not support RON PUAL.
2012
Frostfree
You're lulling youself into a comfort zone with the repetition of nonsensical rhetoic. This has been the problem of low information voters who fancy themselves conservative. They attack anyone who says "wait a minute we might be relying a self promoting faux conservative like Newt". As Newt sits with Nanci Pelosi supporting Obama care, he reads his own telepromter engratiating himself to anyone for free publicity.
Do yourself a favor and get behind a serious candidate, promoting this phoney is a waste of time. With people like you who have some fantasy of victory based on some playground affectation "he reads a teleprompter" keeps people focused on absurdity rather then facts. This country is not in this predicamint because of Obama. It was propagated well before Obama came to office because of the sellout of the republicans and democrats.
As a true conservative independent I'm truely tired of those, like you, who reduce the seriousness of governance to a namecalling contest. America needs a lot better than that. We need complex solutions to carry this society into the next century, Newt does not forward any but just restates the tired party lines that the sheep will follow blindly. People like you should stay out of the way and stop clogging the roads to American progress.
"Herman Cain–glided over specifics. Cain repeatedly told questioners that if elected president he would quiz his advisors about the best course."
Apparently, the author of this article doesn't understand one great characteristic of leadership is the ability to gather information from domain experts to gain deeper insights to the issue. "Quiz"? nice little jab…
I'm not a Cain supporter, I'm saying it would be more productive if these journalists could find a way to keep their kool-aid to themselves and simply report the events.
I believe lack of leadership is largely to blame for this country's economic problems.
"PONDER WHAT CONGRESSMAN RON PAUL SAID DURING THE DEBATE,
‘…you go to the Congress and find out if our national security is threatened… [then] you get a declaration of war and you fight it and you win it and get it over with.
“Saturday’s CBS/National Journal Republican presidential debate on foreign policy once again showed the limits, OR BLATANT DISREGARD the ESTABLISHMENT media AND ALL THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES, EXCEPT RON PAUL, grasp of the principles and how THE CONSTITUTION, as THE LAW THAT GOVERNS GOVERNMENT, should INSTRUCT our FOREIGN POLICY. During the entire event, THE QUESTIONS SEEMED TO ASSUME THAT THE PRESIDENT IS UNCONSTRAINED in his or her ability to act in matters of national security — and that the role of Commander-in-Chief is tantamount to being a military dictator. AND THAT THE ROLE AS COMMANDER IN CHIEF IS TANTAMOUNT TO BEING A MILITARY DICTATOR.
Unfortunately, with the exception of Congressman Ron Paul,
UNFORTUNATELY, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF CONGRESSMAN RON PAUL the Republican candidates for President generally joined this shallow analysis and skipped-over the Constitution in their answers…
Those who object to re-establishing the Constitutional role of Congress in matters of national security because it makes national security too public and too complicated might ponder what Congressman Ron Paul said during Saturday’s debate,
‘…you go to the Congress and find out if our national security is threatened… [then] you get a declaration of war and you fight it and you win it and get it over with.’
Viguerie concluded: “That sounds a whole lot less complicated, and a whole lot more in line with what the Founders had in mind for how to conduct our foreign relations, than what is going on in national security policy right now.”
RON PAUL 2012
The person the Republicrat establishment fears most is Ron Paul. That's why they work so hard to minimize Mr. Paul's participation in the debates. Their bias is so blatant that no reasonable person can miss it.
^^ i completely agree. scott pelley only made himself look like a fool during this debate. of course there are set rules due to time constrictions, etc. but a GOOD moderator knows how to conduct himself accordingly, balancing the clock with the candidates respective responses. he was ALMOST as bad as john king several debates back, but not quite, he can thus take a close second to john, as worst moderator thus far.
i would say anderson cooper, wolf blitzer, charlie rose and bret baier have been the best men for the job thus far; well spoken, clear, concise, balanced and knew how to work the candidates, crowd and clock, etc.
-cheers all
it's sad that the candidates don't have equal time to speak. I'm not a supporter of Bachmann, but she only spoke once or twice in the entire election. But I'm pissed that Paul spoke like 3 or 4 times.
Huntsman is the only candidate that could defeat Obama in an election, and he's the only capable candidate.
Cain is absolutely useless on every issue, and has no idea how the government works.
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Leadership is based on an appropriate combined quotient of intelligence, judgement and experience. Each candidate has their own strength and weakness regarding these important metrics. The President, first and foremost, is called upon for leadership - not just domestically, but globally. Yes, we have plenty of troubling issues to fix at home, but most Americans are relatively ignorant of the complexities and consequences of global actions. Regardless of the "electability" of some of the low polling candidates, I believe they all should remain in the debates because some have more relevent inputs on various critical topics (such as Huntsman on China, Cain on business, Bachmann on finance, Gingrich on how government really works, etc.), and this promotes "critical thinking" among not only the candidates but also the American public at large. And by the way, picking on Scott Peley and CBS misses the point. Does anyone really think that our future President will be "properly hosted" during negotiations with the likes of a Sarkozy, or Netanyahu, or Hu? Come on people, toughen up!
I would just like to have a president that will fix this country. With all the money that they give the Banks and other companys that they bail out, why dont they just give the money to the middle-class and to lower income familys and help them out. these are the people that are effected most. WIth the way the government is the rich get richer and poorer get poorer.
Kevin
Research Ron Paul.
I am blown away by the warmongering seen in the first 10 minutes. It is complete mind wash.
I am blown away by the warmongering seen in the first 10 minutes. It is complete mind wash.
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Only RON PAUL is against more war!
RON PAUL 2012
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